Detailed Predictions for: Lake Elsinore
Launch Altitude (f): 2650
LZ Altitude (f): 1350
Sounding

Station:

KNKX

Date/Time:

1200Z 24 DEC 07

Temp/Wind data from::

NOAA Digital Forecast

Time
(Local)
High
Temp

Puddle
Temp

Wind
(mph)
Thermal
Ceiling

(ft)
Soaring
Ceiling

(ft)
Above
Launch

(ft)
Thermal
Type
Thermal
Index

(F)
12 Midnight Mon 53 53 N 6 774 2650 0 Blue 0
1 AM Mon 52 52 N 7 774 2650 0 Blue 0
2 AM Mon 52 52 N 7 774 2650 0 Blue 0
3 AM Mon 51 51 N 7 774 2650 0 Blue 0
4 AM Mon 51 51 NNW 7 774 2650 0 Blue 0
5 AM Mon 51 51 NNW 7 774 2650 0 Blue 0
6 AM Mon 51 51 NNW 7 774 2650 0 Blue 0
7 AM Mon 52 52 NNW 6 774 2650 0 Blue 0
8 AM Mon 55 55 NNW 6 774 2650 0 Blue 0
9 AM Mon 59 59 NNW 6 1655 2650 0 Blue 0
10 AM Mon 62 63 N 5 2904 2650 0 Blue 1
11 AM Mon 64 66 N 5 3817 2901 251 Blue 4
12 Noon Mon 66 68 N 5 4414 3505 855 Blue 6
1 PM Mon 67 69 NW 4 4710 3805 1155 Blue 7
2 PM Mon 66 67 NW 4 4117 3204 554 Blue 5
3 PM Mon 66 66 NW 4 3817 2901 251 Blue 4
4 PM Mon 63 63 N 10 2904 2650 0 Blue 1
5 PM Mon 57 57 N 10 1016 2650 0 Blue 0
6 PM Mon 56 56 N 10 774 2650 0 Blue 0
7 PM Mon 55 55 NNE 17 774 2650 0 Blue 0
8 PM Mon 54 54 NNE 17 774 2650 0 Blue 0
9 PM Mon 52 52 NNE 17 774 2650 0 Blue 0
10 PM Mon 51 51 N 11 774 2650 0 Blue 0
11 PM Mon 51 51 N 11 774 2650 0 Blue 0
12 Midnight Tue 50 50 N 11 774 2650 0 Blue 0
1 AM Tue 50 50 N 19 774 2650 0 Blue 0
2 AM Tue 48 48 N 19 774 2650 0 Blue 0
3 AM Tue 47 47 N 19 774 2650 0 Blue 0
4 AM Tue 47 47 N 20 774 2650 0 Blue 0
5 AM Tue 47 47 N 20 774 2650 0 Blue 0
6 AM Tue 47 47 N 20 774 2650 0 Blue 0
7 AM Tue 48 48 N 17 774 2650 0 Blue 0
8 AM Tue 51 51 N 17 774 2650 0 Blue 0
9 AM Tue 55 56 N 17 774 2650 0 Blue 0
10 AM Tue 58 59 NNE 23 1655 2650 0 Blue 0
11 AM Tue 60 62 NNE 23 2596 2650 0 Blue 0
12 Noon Tue 62 64 NNE 23 3211 2650 0 Blue 2
1 PM Tue 63 65 NNE 17 3515 2650 0 Blue 3
2 PM Tue 62 63 NNE 17 2904 2650 0 Blue 1
3 PM Tue 62 62 NNE 17 2596 2650 0 Blue 0
4 PM Tue 60 60 NNE 11 1971 2650 0 Blue 0
5 PM Tue 54 54 NNE 11 774 2650 0 Blue 0
6 PM Tue 53 53 NNE 11 774 2650 0 Blue 0
7 PM Tue 52 52 NE 9 774 2650 0 Blue 0
8 PM Tue 51 51 NE 9 774 2650 0 Blue 0
9 PM Tue 50 50 NE 9 774 2650 0 Blue 0
10 PM Tue 49 49 NE 7 774 2650 0 Blue 0
11 PM Tue 49 49 NE 7 774 2650 0 Blue 0
12 Midnight Wed 48 48 NE 7 774 2650 0 Blue 0
1 AM Wed 48 48 N 4 774 2650 0 Blue 0
2 AM Wed 46 46 N 4 774 2650 0 Blue 0
3 AM Wed 45 45 N 4 774 2650 0 Blue 0
4 AM Wed 45 45 NNW 2 774 2650 0 Blue 0
5 AM Wed 45 45 NNW 2 774 2650 0 Blue 0
6 AM Wed 45 45 NNW 2 774 2650 0 Blue 0
7 AM Wed 45 45 WNW 2 774 2650 0 Blue 0
8 AM Wed 48 48 WNW 2 774 2650 0 Blue 0
9 AM Wed 50 50 WNW 2 774 2650 0 Blue 0
10 AM Wed 52 53 SSW 4 774 2650 0 Blue 0
11 AM Wed 53 55 SSW 4 774 2650 0 Blue 0
12 Noon Wed 54 56 SSW 4 774 2650 0 Blue 0
1 PM Wed 55 56 SSW 7 774 2650 0 Blue 0
2 PM Wed 54 55 SSW 7 774 2650 0 Blue 0
3 PM Wed 54 54 SSW 7 774 2650 0 Blue 0
4 PM Wed 52 52 WSW 6 774 2650 0 Blue 0
5 PM Wed 48 48 WSW 6 774 2650 0 Blue 0
6 PM Wed 47 47 WSW 6 774 2650 0 Blue 0
7 PM Wed 47 47 E 3 774 2650 0 Blue 0
8 PM Wed 46 46 E 3 774 2650 0 Blue 0
9 PM Wed 45 45 E 3 774 2650 0 Blue 0
10 PM Wed 44 44 ENE 7 774 2650 0 Blue 0
11 PM Wed 44 44 ENE 7 774 2650 0 Blue 0
12 Midnight Thu 43 43 ENE 7 774 2650 0 Blue 0
1 AM Thu 43 43 NNE 12 774 2650 0 Blue 0
2 AM Thu 42 42 NNE 12 774 2650 0 Blue 0
3 AM Thu 41 41 NNE 12 774 2650 0 Blue 0
4 AM Thu 41 41 NNE 12 774 2650 0 Blue 0
5 AM Thu 41 41 NNE 12 774 2650 0 Blue 0
6 AM Thu 41 41 NNE 12 774 2650 0 Blue 0
7 AM Thu 41 41 NNE 12 774 2650 0 Blue 0
8 AM Thu 44 44 NNE 12 774 2650 0 Blue 0
9 AM Thu 46 46 NNE 12 774 2650 0 Blue 0
10 AM Thu 48 49 NE 5 774 2650 0 Blue 0
11 AM Thu 49 50 NE 5 774 2650 0 Blue 0
12 Noon Thu 50 52 NE 5 774 2650 0 Blue 0
1 PM Thu 51 52 NE 5 774 2650 0 Blue 0
2 PM Thu 50 51 NE 5 774 2650 0 Blue 0
3 PM Thu 51 51 NE 5 774 2650 0 Blue 0
4 PM Thu 49 49 NE 5 774 2650 0 Blue 0
5 PM Thu 47 47 NE 5 774 2650 0 Blue 0
6 PM Thu 46 46 NE 5 774 2650 0 Blue 0
7 PM Thu 46 46 NE 5 774 2650 0 Blue 0
8 PM Thu 45 45 NE 5 774 2650 0 Blue 0
9 PM Thu 44 44 NE 5 774 2650 0 Blue 0
10 PM Thu 44 44 SSW 3 774 2650 0 Blue 0
11 PM Thu 44 44 SSW 3 774 2650 0 Blue 0
12 Midnight Fri 43 43 SSW 3 774 2650 0 Blue 0
1 AM Fri 43 43 SSW 3 774 2650 0 Blue 0
2 AM Fri 42 42 SSW 3 774 2650 0 Blue 0
3 AM Fri 42 42 SSW 3 774 2650 0 Blue 0
4 AM Fri 42 42 SSW 3 774 2650 0 Blue 0
5 AM Fri 42 42 SSW 3 774 2650 0 Blue 0
6 AM Fri 42 42 SSW 3 774 2650 0 Blue 0
7 AM Fri 42 42 SSW 3 774 2650 0 Blue 0
8 AM Fri 45 45 SSW 3 774 2650 0 Blue 0
9 AM Fri 48 48 SSW 3 774 2650 0 Blue 0
10 AM Fri 50 51 WSW 7 774 2650 0 Blue 0
11 AM Fri 51 52 WSW 7 774 2650 0 Blue 0
12 Noon Fri 52 53 WSW 7 774 2650 0 Blue 0
1 PM Fri 53 54 WSW 7 774 2650 0 Blue 0
2 PM Fri 52 53 WSW 7 774 2650 0 Blue 0
3 PM Fri 53 53 WSW 7 774 2650 0 Blue 0
4 PM Fri 51 51 WSW 7 774 2650 0 Blue 0
5 PM Fri 48 48 WSW 7 774 2650 0 Blue 0
6 PM Fri 47 47 WSW 7 774 2650 0 Blue 0
7 PM Fri 46 46 WSW 7 774 2650 0 Blue 0
8 PM Fri 46 46 WSW 7 774 2650 0 Blue 0
9 PM Fri 45 45 WSW 7 774 2650 0 Blue 0
10 PM Fri 44 44 N 4 774 2650 0 Blue 0
11 PM Fri 44 44 N 4 774 2650 0 Blue 0
12 Midnight Sat 44 44 N 4 774 2650 0 Blue 0
1 AM Sat 44 44 N 4 774 2650 0 Blue 0
2 AM Sat 43 43 N 4 774 2650 0 Blue 0
3 AM Sat 42 42 N 4 774 2650 0 Blue 0
4 AM Sat 42 42 N 4 774 2650 0 Blue 0
5 AM Sat 42 42 N 4 774 2650 0 Blue 0
6 AM Sat 42 42 N 4 774 2650 0 Blue 0
7 AM Sat 42 42 N 4 774 2650 0 Blue 0
8 AM Sat 46 46 N 4 774 2650 0 Blue 0
9 AM Sat 49 49 N 4 774 2650 0 Blue 0
10 AM Sat 52 53 WSW 7 774 2650 0 Blue 0
11 AM Sat 54 55 WSW 7 774 2650 0 Blue 0
12 Noon Sat 55 56 WSW 7 774 2650 0 Blue 0
1 PM Sat 56 57 WSW 7 1016 2650 0 Blue 0
2 PM Sat 55 56 WSW 7 774 2650 0 Blue 0
3 PM Sat 56 56 WSW 7 774 2650 0 Blue 0

DISCLAIMER: These estimates are intended to assist in daily site selection only.  No warranty is made concerning the accuracy of these estimates.  These estimates cannot be used to determine if conditions are safe for flying.  Conditions should be evaluated at the launch site by experienced pilots before launching.

Sounding: This is the site at which the weather balloon was released.  If the flying site predicted is far from the sounding site, the estimate is not valid.  Also, the sounding is done at 12Z (4AM PST).  If a front comes through, the sounding is no longer valid. The sounding becomes less valid later in the day.

Thermal Ceiling: the lower of the height at which the thermal stops rising and the cloud level.  We can't fly into the clouds, so it doesn't matter how much higher the thermal goes.  Remember that we can't get to the top of the thermal because of our sink rate.  Our upper limit will be lower than the reported ceiling.

Soaring Ceiling: We will stop going up when the thermal is rising just fast enough to offset our sink.  It is estimated that this happens when the temperature difference between the thermal and the surrounding air is about 2 degrees F. This number is an estimate of the maximum altitude we might reach if we start at launch height, and should be more reflective of our chances of soaring than the thermal top. Please let me know how this compares with actually flying, and I will adjust it as necessary.

Above Launch: The difference between how high we might get and how high we start. This estimate does not account for ridge lift.

High Temp: This estimate is taken from the Weather Channel website.  Puddle temperatures can exceed this temperature. 

Puddle Temp: This estimate is based on the High Temp and the Weather Channel estimate of cloudiness, and the angle of the sun.  When the sun is directly overhead on a sunny day, the puddle temp is esimated to be 25 degrees warmer than the high ambient temperature. This estimate now includes a rigorous calculation of the Sun Angle, and accounts for the seasonal differences in zenith and daylight hours.

Wind: This estimate is taken from the Weather Channel website.

Thermal Type: Blue (no cloud formation) or White (Cloud formation)

Thermal Index: This is the maximum difference in temperature between the rising packet of air (the thermal) and the surrounding air.  The difference in temperature is responsible for the buoyancy of the thermal, and larger temperature differences mean faster rising thermals.  A value of about 10 F or greater often means that the conditions are soarable.  Values above 20 could indicate rowdy thermals.

Validity of estimate: Many factors (including strong wind, fronts, cloud shadows, incorrectly predicted temperatures, etc) can affect the validity of the estimates. 

Author: Tad Hurst (tadh@flytorrey.com)